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pbognar
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posted 05-30-2002 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pbognar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frank,

Sorry for the new post, but I needed some clarification on your reply to my question, and I figured you might not re-read the previous thread... (If you don't want to read my long drawn out story - please skip to the end - I'm looking for a speaker recommendation)

What you'd said was:

"Pete,
Changing speaker won't give you what you're after....it's only an 80 watt amp...that's the problem....to get a loud clean sound you need about 250 watts a side....stereo. It all about headroom. You'll just have to turn down......
I can't get a clean sound that I'm happy with on any combo amp or 100 watt head...at a decent stage volume. They just don't have enough headroom. I use a PA-1000 amp ( which is made to drive PA systems! ) to get sufficient headroom when I drive one or two Marshall JCM-900 4x12 cabs. Two 4x12 is plenty loud and clean.

Personally I much prefer the 75 watt Celestions over the vintage 30's, they're much sweeter and don't have the ugly mid-range hump of the 30's.

Later,
FG"

I just wanted to say that I didn't have a problem with the clean sound breaking up or anything - my amp is pretty close to me onstage - it's that the clean sound is either dark or brittle depending on tone settings - at any volume.

You'd mentioned in an earlier post that you had a guy from Yamaha come out to NAMM 2000 and adjust the center frequencies of the tone knobs on the clean amp models while you played - that's what I'm talking about. But I tried to get Yamaha to come out to my house, and they declined (the nerve...).

Anyway, I'd also been talking to Barry Ryan from Yamaha Canada, who creates the factory presets for the Yamaha DG line, and he suggested changing out speakers - a Celestion V30 in the amp and an extension cab with another V30 to handle the 80-100 watts of the amp.

Well, I'd rather have everything in one amp, and I think he's more of a blues guy - I trust tone your advise more for what I'm after.

It seems like my only real option is to replace the existing 12 with another, so to make a long story short(er) - that was the basis of my original question.

You said that the Celestion G12T-75 had a sweeter sound without the midrange hump - I think that's what I'll use, but I just wanted to know how you felt the Carvin GT12 replacement speaker compared with the Celestion 75watt - are they pretty much the same thing? Is the Carvin GT12 the speaker you were using in your Vital Information cabs?

Thanks for you tone help - for those of us who aren't great players like yourself, great tone is something that can at least inspire us to play better.

Pete

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FG
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posted 05-31-2002 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Carvin speakers sound surprisingly good. I would recommend them.....
Later,
FG

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